Lyndahere And A Post About Fan Behaviour (revised)...

When researching on Google about trading in live recordings I came across a Google search article on Lynda Elstad or @lyndahere’s blog page (August 29 2009) that stated Great Big Sea supported their fans recording their shows and trading amongst themselves. When I checked the cached article “It Soaks Into Your Eyes” Beauty Alight and Great Big Songwriters” the title of her blog page there was no mention of Great Big Sea supporting the trade in their live music recordings amongst their fans or anyone else. The Google search talks about members but does not specifically say who members are. The Google search was also connected to an article written by Ben Kaplan from the National Post August 2009 “What about the voice of Geddy Lee?” about a review of a documentary about Canadian music. This is the copy provided in her blog.

What about the voice of Geddy Lee?

Ben Kaplan, National Post  Published: Thursday, August 27, 2009.

Don't expect to learn about Gordon Lightfoot's love life or Trooper's backstage antics in This Beat Goes On and Rise Up!, two documentaries about the Canadian music scene in the 1970s and '80s made by the team of writer Nicholas Jennings and director Gary McGroarty. The films, which feature a combined 200 interviews and will be airing on CBC on four consecutive Thursday nights, are designed to honour Canadian songwriters, not drag them through the mud.

"When you think about Bruce Cockburn and Wondering Where the Lions Are?, you don't think about if he got drunk one night or threw anything out the window -- there's nothing there," says McGroarty, who managed the Canadian band Cano in the late-'70s and recently made a documentary with David Crosby about activism in music. "Americans haven't been celebrating songwriting for the past 10 years; it's all cult of personality. We wanted to celebrate the Canadian art of writing and recording a song."

The songs that the duo were able to round up include everything from classics by the usual subjects, records by Anne Murray, Rush, Neil Young and Joni Mitchell, but also influential, forgotten favourites, singles by bands like The Viletones, Rough Trade, Leroy Sibbles and The Kings. With interviews and live footage, the filmmakers -- whose earlier documentary, 2006's Shakin' All Over, looked at Canadian folk rock in the '60s -- explain how the Canadian music industry was born.

"I want to bring Canadian music back for people who may have forgotten, or introduce it to people who may never have known," says Jennings, whose book Before the Gold Rush, about the coffee shop scene in Toronto's Yorkville neighbourhood during the '60s, was the impetus for the film series.

Jennings says that he's a fan of huge Canadian records like Takin' Care of Business and Hot Child in the City, but that it's the lost classics such as Willie P. Bennett's 1970s records or a Truth and Rights song from a decade later that make this project so fun.

"Canadian musicians draw inspiration from the artists from Canada who came before them," says Jennings, adding that the team intends to make two more music docs that will cover Can-rock from the '90s to today. "Artists now see themselves as part of an ongoing journey. One of the great revelations for me in making these pictures was how Canadian music is linked."

The documentaries, featuring interviews with Nash the Slash, k-os, Burton Cummings and everyone from Corey Hart to Geddy Lee, highlight the music from all across Canada, from D. O. A to Great Big Sea.

"I think Canadians, more than anybody, are known for songwriting," McGroarty says. "Who wouldn't want to celebrate that?" - This Beat Goes On premieres tonight at 9 p. m. on CBC, and continues every Thursday until Sept. 17.

After skim reading the entire blog for August 2009 I could not find any reference to Great Big Sea saying it was acceptable for fans to trade in live recordings amongst themselves or with anyone else. I haven’t watched the video This Beat Goes On to find out if Great Big Sea said those words. @lyndahere mentioned something in her blog about not raking Canadian music through the mud. However, this blog is not about Great Big Sea, Alan Doyle, or Canadian music but about fan behaviour.

I am no expert in what Google puts up on its search introductions for posts. I leave the display of my content for this blog entirely up to them. They select what will be displayed, where and when it is displayed. The searches are constantly changing. When I publish a post I can either agree with what they suggest the post is about or write my own. In @lyndahere’s case she has allegedly written something that is not mentioned in the post or attached the article for her own reasons. Google to the best of my knowledge cannot write it’s own content for searches just reflect what is written by the author. Blogs (unlike a range of other research material) are not set in stone. They can be altered whenever the writer gets extra information or reflects on things after the event. I keep a copy of things I write from in case the authors decide to alter them later on.

After contacting a couple of long term Great Big Sea fans they were under the impression Great Big Sea does not support fans trading or recording live music amongst themselves or with anyone else. Three members of Great Big Sea Alan Doyle, Sean McCann and Bob Hallett in all the time I have followed them in the past year or so on Twitter have not retweeted nor acknowledged any of @lyndahere’s videos she has tweeted them. They may have unconsciously provided links to her videos on Youtube through friends such Russell Crowe or Scott Grimes. Murray Foster has retweeted one of her videos. His former band supports the trade of bootlegged concert videos by their fans. During my search on trading sites I found videos of live concerts for that band available for trade. As I have stated before I believe Great Big Sea don’t mind fans filming the occasional songs at a concert for personal use. They have often commented on those on Twitter. But stalking them continuously filming and photographing everything they do is an entirely different story.

The rest of the @lyndahere’s blog (minus the photographs)...

The Red Rock country of Utah is a beautiful place, one of the most beautiful I've ever seen. It's a beauty founded on and brought out by light - light and shadow, penetrating warmth and constant change. For all the beauty that we've seen thus far - and this morning we are in Bryce Canyon, one of my personal favourite places of all, a place I love with all my heart, just getting ready to head out to see the loveliness that awaits us - still, I find myself thinking of another striking beauty, one which is also founded on and brought out by light - light and shadow, penetrating warmth and constant change. And thinking of another one of those personal favourite places of all…

We've been travelling long days - great times, but long days - and by the time we get back to the  room  (usually long after sunset), the bed has looked more appealing than has the laptop, which has been pragmatic enough since most of the "free WiFi" connections at the lodges in these remote places have been wonky at best. We're here at Bryce for the next three nights, however, staying at what can legitimately be termed as a "resort," so I'm hoping to finally get caught back up. Still after sunset, though. There are some amazing trails just waiting to be hiked and I do not intend on keeping them waiting for long. As I said, beauty awaits. Who am I to keep beauty waiting?

I will linger long enough to put up this very interesting link I found in my overstuffed email box. Be sure to notice the highlighted paragraph near the end.

After I published the post I found these on a similar Google searches today...

August 2009 - Between The Rock And A Hard Place :Newfoundland
11 Aug 2009 – And every time I hear it, recorded or live (or via video made by a kind friend), it has the .... The number one thing you can do is write new great music to bring your crowd. ... members to tape their shows, but to trade bootlegs freely among themselves. .... Posted by: Stephen | 13 August 2009 at 05:41 AM ...

 August 2009 - Between The Rock And A Hard Place :Newfoundland

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Between The Rock And A Hard Place: Newfoundland, Great Big Sea, Alan Doyle, ... Ben Kaplan, National Post Published: Thursday, August 27, 2009 ..... And every time I hear it, recorded or live (or via video made by a kind friend), it has the .... members to tape their shows, but to trade bootlegs freely among themselves.

Lyndahere, Bootlegging And Cultural Preservation...A fan responds.

“These Boots Were Made For Burning. The Bootlegger’s Obsession” is an interesting article written by Rick McGrath in August 2002 about bootlegging from a bootlegger and collector’s perspective. It is an honest account of his feelings and experiences in a subject that is very close to his heart the recording of live music. There are many reasons why McGrath is passionate about live music recordings. He describes his experiences of opening a package, putting the CD in the player and reliving the recorded concert experience. He could almost be there. There is the thrill of obtaining illegal or contraband material with little risk of ever getting caught, the hunt for obscure concerts of his favourite artists, the ins and outs of trading, a bit about the history of bootlegging and even the bootlegging law.

McGrath describes some of the pitfalls of trading and how to tell a good recording from a bad one. McGrath is like a food critic writing about a restaurant he has been to. “You think, maybe you should send a copy of this to your friend out west. He likes these guys. But he also likes pristine sound, you remember, and this bootleg suffers from the primitive recorders of the 1970s. Muffled drums, too much bass, wonky mixing... nahhh, he ain't gonna like this one”.

So why do people prefer bootlegged material of live concerts. McGrath offers many explanations for example, the thrill of being caught up in the performance of a live tape and owning something that no one else has. McGrath writes about his love of bootlegged material “For me, that's what it boils down to, man. I think the fun is finding the oddball stuff, or tracking down the boot of a concert you attended, or listening to the concert version of an album you particularly liked, and not falling for the seduction of the collector's obsession: the thrill of ownership -- the actual physical possession of a keepsake as a function of "consuming" the artist”.

McGrath writes a kind of how to guide for bootlegging and how to trade with other collectors. During his early twenties McGrath recorded many concerts on tapes. He writes about altering the sound of tapes to trade, finding a trader group on the Internet and advertising and trading goods. Within seconds of placing an ad for his material he had willing traders. He made a list of all his material and kept a copy of the originals. Within 15 months of starting trading he had over 15 000 bootlegged CDs.

So how does this apply to Lynda Elstad or @lyndahere? What was interesting was McGrath writing about how he adjusted the sound of his original recordings to sell bootlegged copies. “…so I digitized my old cassettes, cleaned up the sound with some audio software, and burnt those ancient concerts onto silver discs of plastic. Now, when I say "clean up", I mean maybe add a little filtering to boost the treble, or mute the bass a bit... you really can't fiddle with it that much... and like furniture collectors, many boot collectors want the sound as pristine as possible... just as the original tape recorder captured it”. It would be interesting to know how much @lyndahere fiddles with the original sound of concerts she records prior to them being placed up on YouTube. There is no dispute that the sound is dreadful on many of her videos. Whether this is how the original concert sounded or her interpretation of how the concert sounded only she knows.

There is no disputing McGrath’s position on bootlegged material. McGrath like others believe there was a huge potential for musicians and groups to tap into the bootlegged live recording market. Some musicians and groups have come on board with this. They have allowed fans to record and trade in live recordings of their concerts as this decreases the value of live recordings. Some musicians and groups even record their own concerts and sell them to fans. McGrath writes “An official bootleg of each show would be snapped up by the legions of acolytes who would normally be happy with a crappy audience recording, if that's all there was. Soundboards today are all computer-run, digital master manipulators of sound, and a very good recording could easily be made and stored of each concert. You want a copy? Go to a web site, buy it and download it... Then burn it on your own cd”. It would be interesting to know in 2012 how many of the millions of live recordings on Youtube have been made by the musicians and groups.

McGrath concludes “In the biggest picture, what is being created is a vast collection of cultural artifacts, nurtured, analysed and maintained by an army of devoted priests, keepers of the faith, fertilizers of the truth”… “Because when those groovy graduate students at Jetson U. go looking for raw material to grist in the mill, they won't have far to go. And it will all be organized for them. This, of course, is yet another rationalization”. Any student at university doing original research will use a number of sources such as live recordings from a variety of sources and then decide if the bootlegged material is reliable. There is a good chance @lyndahere has adjusted the sound deliberately to give consumers whatever interpretation she feels like providing good or bad. Whether this is a true interpretation only she knows. @lyndahere has the masters of these concerts. 

A considerable amount of Newfoundland folk music recordings therefore are in foreign hands. If she does share her videos it may be whatever interpretation she wishes to share, not an interpretation that is determined by the custodians of the music, the musicians from Newfoundland whose cultural heritage it is. Thank goodness for organisations like CBC Newfoundland who record live music legally, in cooperation with the musicians with quality equipment and professional operators and Memorial University who preserve cultural heritage.

Lyndahere And Team Great Big Sea...A fan interpretation.

“If only there were a way to give Alan 24 hours a day in the spotlight at centre-stage edge. Right where he belongs." (Between the Rock and a Hardplace 17 November 2012) And he clearly is in Lynda Elstad or @lyndahere’s world.

In her two most recent posts at her blog page Between A Rock and a Hardplace (“…And A New One Begins Days of Future Past and Embraceable Contradictions Danforth GBS Show Conclusion and Beginning 17 November 2012 and the first part of the post “A New One Begins” Part One Great Big Sea XX tour, First Show (Danforth Music Hall Toronto 14 November 2012). @lyndahere talks about the first Great Big Sea show for Great Big Sea XX. I predicted I would not read a lot about the team that is Great Big Sea. In other words I would read about the Alan Doyle show with four other guys whose name and contribution get a brief mention if any. 

@lyndahere writes a lot about her beloved Alan Doyle, his showmanship and the music he writes and plays but not much about the team that is Great Big Sea and their contributions to the successful twenty years they have been together. @lyndahere talks about how she measures the best shows “My own Great Show standard of measure is twofold. I love shows in which Alan gets to shine brightly and I love shows in which just about everyone present on and off the stage feels grateful to be exactly where they are”.

@lyndahere loves to go on and on about gratitude in her blogs and on Twitter. I read a lot about how much she admires people who are grateful. Most people are grateful for their family, friends, job and career, their health and wellbeing, to live in a community relatively free of violence and civil war, to have clean water, food in constant supply and a health and education system. But to be honest people pay to be entertained. It is their job to be entertainers. It is a reward for the hard work during the week not a way of life. That is not to say that Great Big Sea are not a part of their lives and bring great pleasure as they do mine. The blog has the usual flood of Alan Doyle pictures, videos and the Alan Doyle moments and memories. I am still waiting to read about team Great Big Sea.

So it is within this context @lyndahere writes about what a kind and thoughtful soul she is towards Great Big Sea and their fans while bootlegging the whole show and forgetting about the contribution of each member. “ I am going to still hold off a bit more before writing in depth about the XX Box Set. Two reasons for that, the first (and most important) being that a few folks are still waiting some patiently, some a bit (understandably) less so – for their orders to be delivered, and it seems more polite to wait a bit longer before I go blathering on about what they’re still waiting to see for themselves”. The second reason is that because I have never been a Box-Set Purchaser (this is the first one I have ever brought though there a least several dozen of the things to be found on various shelves in my house) I’ve asked a few friends who have much more expertise than I have to take a look at XX and tell me how it stacks up in satisfying the Diehard Fans’ desires. I’m still waiting to hear back from a few of them but so far the responses I have gotten have been impressively positive (“…And A New One Begins Days of Future Past and Embraceable Contradictions Danforth GBS Show Conclusion and Beginning 17 November 2012).

The diehard fans have spoken. The horse has bolted. @lyndahere failed to mentioned in her blog posts a significant detail that the Great Big Sea XX album had gone Gold in Canada within two weeks which says to me that people loved it. The special edition boxed sets also sold out pretty quick as well. On the 14 November 2012 the members of Great Big Sea announced on Twitter that Great Big Sea XX had gone Gold in Canada (40 000 albums).

@alanthomasdoyle Just got a note from Louis our manager. GBS XX has gone Gold in Canada. In less than two weeks it seems. I am Humbled and Grateful. 14 November 2012


@bobhallett GBS XX is gold! Thanks to the fans who still believe in us after 20 years 14 November 2012 

I did not read a congratulations Alan Doyle, Sean McCann, Bob Hallett, Murray Foster, and Kris MacFarlane in her blog post 17 November 2012. Hopefully in her reviews she will remember that Great Big Sea consists of five members including Bob Hallett, Sean McCann, Murray Foster and Kris MacFarlane not just Alan Doyle who is the first to recognise Great Big Sea is a team.

Lyndahere, Bootlegging And Trading...Some interesting research.

“Bootlegging. The Underground Pipeline Is Live Music’s Lifeline Page 2” by Jason Schneider provides an overview of the bootlegged trade in Canada in 2000. 

The article outlines the establishment of laws around bootlegging, the arrests in the US and Canada for sale and trade in bootlegged material and the establishment of the Canadian Bootleg Trader's Index.

The Canadian Bootleg Trader's Index provided people interested in trading bootlegged material within Canada in a range of forms including cassettes, CD and MP3 with an avenue to do so.

“The same argument for promotion first emerged more than 30 years ago when bands like the Grateful Dead realised the value of letting their music circulate; their openness to tape-traders was one reason for the band's enduring popularity. Many bands have followed that example - Phish, Dave Matthews Band, U2, R.E.M. and Pearl Jam are among the biggest - encouraging fans to trade recordings as long money was kept out the transaction” (Schneider 2000).

"It's clear that a handful of bands dominate the CBTI list - that's the general nature of tape-trading - but it's not just the old-school traders who are hip to the netd trading scene now. I've added way more lists from women in the past year than ever before, and likewise I'm getting longer and more diverse lists, especially with collections branching out into jazz and other more experimental music that hasn't been traditionally big with traders,".

The Canadian Bootleg Trader's Index no longer exists. There is still however a community of traders on the look out for bootlegged material. They insist they do not do it for money but for the love of the music. I am sure that the trade has continued for serious traders as well despite the emergence of YouTube and the Internet but I am not exactly sure...

Lyndahere, Bootlegging And A Reason Why...My interpretation.

"Well, when I met you at the station, you were standing with a bootleg in your hand ..." (from the Wings song "Hi Hi Hi" by Paul McCartney, 1972 as sited in G.W.Melton 1991).

Some interesting quotes as to why fans prefer bootlegged material from a 1991 article written by G.W. Melton. Titled An examination of the bootleg record industry and its impact upon popular music consumption’ in Soundscapes.info (vol 3 November 1991) Melton conducted research and examined the impact of bootlegging with specific reference to the Beatles.

This quote comes from the book by L.R.E King. L.R.E. King (1988) provides an explanation as to why some fans may like bootlegged material.

"Trying to understand the Beatles' music only through their authorized releases is like trying to understand an automobile by admiring its paint job. They are only the surface, the end product, and they say little on applying craftsmanship to basic creative genius. The final product gives great pleasure, but we have the responsibility to find out how things work and only by studying the processes of creativity can we demystify it and derive useful knowledge. Beyond that, study of their abandoned projects and failures helps keep them in perspective. We can see that they weren't godlings, but merely four human beings whose talent, skills, and chemistry, combined with hard work, and the luck of being in the right place at the right time gave them unprecedented artistic and commercial success. Today's art historians x-ray important paintings to see the rough sketches beneath. Studying the Beatles' unreleased recordings is our way of doing the same thing."

“In summary, Bootleg recordings exist because such fulfill fan needs. And, in some instances, the fan will buy the "boot" version rather than the commercial source. As Fenick (1982) concluded, as long as fans like to follow a song's progression and gain a deeper insight into the musical workings of the Beatles, the bootleggers will continue to enjoy the challenge — and profit — of competition with each other and the commercial record industry for the leisure time of fans”.

Thirty years ago researchers on bootlegging are writing about “profit and competition with the record industry for leisure time of fans”. The way music is distributed, purchased and consumed is considerably different today than it was back then and the technology available to produce, distribute and consume illegal material is also different. But I think this best applies to Lynda Elstad or @lyndahere as I have never read about her writing about the evolution of the material of Great Big Sea or Alan Doyle (To the best of my knowledge). “Fenick (1982) argued that the most obvious reason why fans want to own bootlegs when they can buy all the legitimate recordings of the Beatles is because such fans want to own material that is just unavailable in any legal form”.

@lyndahere tweeted to @alanthomasdoyle Finalising travel plans of the Gramercy’s Alan Doyle Cheering Section. Don’t worry - we’ll be discreet And discrete. 9 October 2012

@alanthomasdoyle Seattle/St John’s/Rochester chapter of AD cheering Section present & accounted for. New Hampshire reports in tomorrow. 12 October 2012. 

@lyndahere leaves her unique impression on every live recording of Great Big Sea, and concerts by Alan Doyle and Sean McCann she attends. There is a unique scream and cheering I would like to allege belongs to @lyndahere. It grates on me like nails on a chalk board. Another reason I don’t particularly enjoy some live recordings. But for her she is immortalised in sound with her beloved Alan Doyle with millions of people over the world hearing her. The sixth member of Great Big Sea.

References

Fenick, B. (1982), Collecting the Beatles. Chicago: Contemporary Books, Inc., 1982.

King, L.R.E. (1988), Do you want to know a secret? Tucson: Storyteller Inc., 1988.

Lyndahere, Bootlegging And Bullying...My interpretation.

On her Twitter page Lynda Elstad or @lyndahere wrote “Did a good deed for a little boy today. Before any arseholes respond with bullying Emails, I’m referring (as before) to Christina’s nephew”. 

If it is true that she is receiving Emails then there are a range of people who do not agree also with her behaviour. I would like to make it perfectly clear if she is receiving Emails then they are not from me. I do not contact her in any form including Email, Facebook, Twitter or her blog Between a Rock and Hard Place or leave comments on her YouTube page under this name or any other name. It seems time to revisit the concept of what is bullying, the cycle of bullying and the role of bystanders because even as adults we forget about how actions can affect others.

@lyndahere wrote on her most recent post on a Between a Rock and Hard Place details of her accomplishments in stalking Alan Doyle, Great Big Sea and some of their friends across a range of countries including America, France, Canada, Italy, Spain and Australia and at various events including concerts, video shoots, public appearances, music awards, television appearances, charity events, public and private corporate events over last ten years. The only time Alan Doyle and Great Big Sea have had any peace from her constant filming and being photographed is when they have been on some overseas excursions and for charity events or on holidays with their family and friends. It is unfortunate that this kind of behaviour seems acceptable and encouraged by many people on Twitter and social media sites.

Researchers write about bystanders “But bullies often have ‘henchmen’ reinforces or an outer group of audience participants who shore up their confidence and act as obedient colluders…when the bystanders understand the harm they do and no longer encourage the perpetrator, a powerful step is achieved in changing the behaviour…I do not think @lyndahere has ever really been challenged and as a consequence her behaviour is seen as normal and acceptable and is encouraged by many fans of Great Big Sea and Alan Doyle. In some cases I think @lyndahere has been able to create an illusion she has the support of the of fans and perhaps even the friends of Alan Doyle and Great Big Sea who by providing links to some of her bootlegged material on her YouTube site for their own publicity encourages her to continue. Then there are the bystanders, people who support her stalking and bootlegging efforts. Those people that don’t support it are quickly shut down with attacks from fake social media accounts. Not only are those people attacked but their social media friends too.

There has been a lot of confusion about what is bullying and cyberbullying that it is a term which has been misunderstood. It can be used to describe a range of behaviour some of it extremely hurtful. Some behaviour such as lightly teasing someone, engaging in banter or has an opinion different to their own has been referred to as bullying but in fact is not. Researchers refer to bullying as “Bullying is the persistent intentional harming of another person within an unequal power relations”. There are several elements to this “an imbalance of power so that the victim/s can not defend themselves, an intention to hurt, humiliate or embarrass and repetition, a campaign to hurt”. Researchers argue that a disagreement among people of equal power is not bullying. People on social media accounts offering a difference of opinion are called bullies by some. Comments like @ddrocked “you two are *bullying* a GBS band member for RTing a VID?Cheeky! o_O” when people express an opinion about the quality of the bootlegged material being provided by @lyndahere.

@lyndahere is not in a powerless position to defend herself against anyone who disagrees with her. @lyndahere has social media accounts with followers and anyone who disagrees with her is ignored. @lyndahere has written in her blog about her experiences with fans who object and in some cases borrowed their arguments and words and used them as her own. She has contacted my Internet Service Providers and is not shy to threaten a person’s employment if they send comments to her via a work computer. In fact @lyndahere is more powerful than me because I do not have any social media accounts or followers. There are avenues she can take to defend herself including blocking people and reporting offenders to Twitter and other social media and they in turn can terminate their accounts.

Researchers describe several types of and different forms of bullying. They include verbal (threatening or intimidating behaviour name calling, put downs and sexual and racial), physical, coercion (forcing someone to do something they do not want to do such as giving up something) emotional (rejection and isolation, taking away friends, remarks about their physical appearance) indirect (spreading lies and rumours, talking about someone behind their backs and spread hatred about someone), and prejudice drive. Much of this is directed at the people who express an opinion about her videos. They have been threatened and intimidated, been put down (comments about their physical appearance) and had rumours spread about them behind their backs.

There is no campaign to hurt, humiliate or embarrass @lyndahere from me anyway. @lyndahere reacts badly to anyone who tries to engage in a conversation about the impact of her stalking and bootlegging. @lyndahere is unable or unwilling to recognise her behaviour of stalking and bootlegging maybe hurting people like Great Big Sea, their friends and their fans. There are hundreds of poor quality videos and blurred photos loaded up on the Internet. There is no selection of videos based on creativity, quality and uniqueness. Whole concerts are bootlegged and are just put up. There is no recognition that some Great Big Sea fans and perhaps Great Big Sea do not want this as this is not the best way to get new fans and to sell songs and records and seats to concerts. The bootlegging and stalking activities are based entirely on what she wants and maintaining her own lifestyle.

There is a campaign to change her behaviour to work within the laws that protect the musicians we love and admire and get the permission of the people involved. I hope that she would respect their decision to say NO. I tried to talk to her but she was not willing to listen to any kind of criticism of her videos or activities. I am trying to present an argument supported by research and law that will hopeful influence others and perhaps @lyndahere herself.

Reference

Health@health.com Bullies, victims and bystanders viewed 5 November 2012

Katz, A. 2012 Cyberbullying and E-Safety What Educators and Other Professionals Need to Know. Jessica Kinsley Publishers

Patchin, J.W. Hinduja, S, 2012, Cyberbullying Prevention and Response. Expert Perspectives. Routledge Taylor and Francis Group, New York

Lyndahere And Other Bootleggers...

Bootlegging is a complicated issue that I am researching and exploring. There is no question in my mind that bootlegging is illegal but people are still going to do it. With technology available it is part of the concert experience.

After a discussion about the quality of the sound of one of Lynda Elstad or @lyndahere’s fan videos on Twitter someone stated on Twitter

@ddrocked Then there’d be few UTube fanvideos! Most sound, look crap. It’s part of the fun. 6 November 2012.

@ddrocked If you don’t like it don’t watch it. Don’t try to control what anyone else does. 6 November 2012.

@lyndahere may be the first to get her videos up, be the closest to the stage but the quality of the sound is often affected….some people who are further away from the stage make better sound fan videos. @lyndahere videos often monopolise YouTube searches but there are a lot of other fan videos to watch of Great Big Sea, Alan Doyle and the Crowe/Doyle Songbook that are better quality. For these people bootlegging is for fun and only occasionally.

I have done some careful research on YouTube and decided to write a list of fan videos of Great Big Sea, Crowe/Doyle Songbook and Alan Doyle that are not from Between the Rock. I was going to set up a site on YouTube but changed my mind as I don’t have the time to manage it. The criteria for selection are based almost entirely on sound. Some are official videos of concerts for example from South Sydney Media but the majority are bootlegged.

I have included videos over the past 12 months from the Indoor Garden Party in New York and Newfoundland, Russell Crowe’s and Alan Doyle’s visit to Iceland and other Alan Doyle’s promotional tours and concerts earlier this year that I have watched and take some finding on YouTube as Between the Rock often monopolises the searches. The Killing Song is mentioned more than once because it is my favourite Crowe/Doyle song. Great Big Sea fan videos are to come.

Event	Song	YouTube account
Indoor Garden Party St John’s August 2011	Perfect in Your Eyes	South Sydney Media
	Disappeared	South Sydney Media
	Too Far Gone	South Sydney Media
	From Here Clear to the Ocean	South Sydney Media
Alan Doyle Promotion Tour May 16 2012	Testify	JecaP94
	Break it Slow	JecaP94
	Where the Nightingale Sings	JecaP94
Alan Doyle, Russell Crowe and Patti Smith in Iceland August 18 2012	Because the Night	Roman Gerasymenko
Alan Doyle, Russell Crowe in Iceland August 18 2012	Killing Song	Hrund Valgeirsdottir
Indoor Garden Party New York City with Russell Crowe Alan Doyle Sting October 13 2012	Every Breathe You Take	Ashley Schutter
	Killing Song	Ashley Schutter
	Perfect in Your Eyes	Conceited Wombat
	Sadness of a Woman	Conceited Wombat
	Lovers Hands	Ashley Schutter Conceited Wombat
	Beautiful Girls	Ashley Schutter